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		<title>By: SUPER</title>
		<link>http://mangapunksai.com/site/silent-hill-shattered-memories-follow-up-rant/comment-page-2/#comment-13027</link>
		<dc:creator>SUPER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 02:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was all a dream. The end.</description>
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		<title>By: Sai</title>
		<link>http://mangapunksai.com/site/silent-hill-shattered-memories-follow-up-rant/comment-page-2/#comment-13026</link>
		<dc:creator>Sai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 04:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;@ Rukifelth&lt;/b&gt; That could work... except for the fact that Harry&#039;s wife was dead, not divorcing him. And even if his wife being dead was an illusion why would he have his wife share a name with a crazy old lady who burned her own daughter- and yeah, doesn&#039;t work. And even if it did it&#039;s retroactive continuity. 

He could be similar to Maria, one problem though, the town in Shattered Memories has no power. It plays no role. The only reason Maria existed was due to the power of the town. It&#039;s one of the biggest points the SM team missed: the town itself is an entity. 

What they did with this game is just rip off Alan Wake, really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>@ Rukifelth</b> That could work&#8230; except for the fact that Harry&#8217;s wife was dead, not divorcing him. And even if his wife being dead was an illusion why would he have his wife share a name with a crazy old lady who burned her own daughter- and yeah, doesn&#8217;t work. And even if it did it&#8217;s retroactive continuity. </p>
<p>He could be similar to Maria, one problem though, the town in Shattered Memories has no power. It plays no role. The only reason Maria existed was due to the power of the town. It&#8217;s one of the biggest points the SM team missed: the town itself is an entity. </p>
<p>What they did with this game is just rip off Alan Wake, really.</p>
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		<title>By: Rukifellth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rukifellth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I have a theory, is it possible that Shattered Memories is an alternate continuity &quot;IF&quot; Silent Hill 1 ended with the &quot;bad ending&quot;. Ie, all the events in Silent-Hill1 was infact just a dream before he died in the car crash.

So in a sence, it makes sence... but they still keep some of the spiritual atributes of the old games. Would&#039;nt it be possible that Harry in Shattered Memories is of a simhialir being as Maria in Silent Hill 2? A desperate wish given flesh that in due time must realise what it is, altough if that was the case, it&#039;s too bad he decided to just dissapear then. T__T

But I do like the game personally, especially Harry&#039;s new look with the glasses. XD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I have a theory, is it possible that Shattered Memories is an alternate continuity &#8220;IF&#8221; Silent Hill 1 ended with the &#8220;bad ending&#8221;. Ie, all the events in Silent-Hill1 was infact just a dream before he died in the car crash.</p>
<p>So in a sence, it makes sence&#8230; but they still keep some of the spiritual atributes of the old games. Would&#8217;nt it be possible that Harry in Shattered Memories is of a simhialir being as Maria in Silent Hill 2? A desperate wish given flesh that in due time must realise what it is, altough if that was the case, it&#8217;s too bad he decided to just dissapear then. T__T</p>
<p>But I do like the game personally, especially Harry&#8217;s new look with the glasses. XD</p>
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		<title>By: Sai</title>
		<link>http://mangapunksai.com/site/silent-hill-shattered-memories-follow-up-rant/comment-page-2/#comment-13013</link>
		<dc:creator>Sai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 21:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;@ Lisa&lt;/b&gt; I do believe I also asked WHY would she make that part of her delusion? Why would she even think of such a detail?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>@ Lisa</b> I do believe I also asked WHY would she make that part of her delusion? Why would she even think of such a detail?</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 10:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ironically, if you take this laundry list of &quot;plot inconsistencies&quot; and actually think them through, you will even learn something about the plot.

Although somethings are better left out. Such as your ridiculous rant on Delusion Harry&#039;s cell phone. Here&#039;s a hint: Because it&#039;s also a DELUSION CREATED BY CHERYL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ironically, if you take this laundry list of &#8220;plot inconsistencies&#8221; and actually think them through, you will even learn something about the plot.</p>
<p>Although somethings are better left out. Such as your ridiculous rant on Delusion Harry&#8217;s cell phone. Here&#8217;s a hint: Because it&#8217;s also a DELUSION CREATED BY CHERYL.</p>
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		<title>By: Sai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;@ Tay&lt;/b&gt;: The gist of it seemed to be that she had daddy issues so she got involved with older men etc. And those issues caused her to act out, as far as the mall goes I think she was just a shoplifter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>@ Tay</b>: The gist of it seemed to be that she had daddy issues so she got involved with older men etc. And those issues caused her to act out, as far as the mall goes I think she was just a shoplifter.</p>
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		<title>By: Tay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 16:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>okay, so I just finished the game. can someone explain to me what cheryl did? like was she the one who killed the guy in the mall? and the pictures of her in the shower and in the car, like why did people pick on her?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>okay, so I just finished the game. can someone explain to me what cheryl did? like was she the one who killed the guy in the mall? and the pictures of her in the shower and in the car, like why did people pick on her?</p>
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		<title>By: Sai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 18:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;@MoldyClay&lt;/b&gt;: I realize that, but again the problem is I&#039;m not playing ME, I&#039;m playing as Harry. If this was an open-ended game with a blank slate of a main character then it would make a little more sense to have such a system, but as it stands it&#039;s just a whole bunch of fourth wall breaking and &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_reading&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cold reading&lt;/a&gt;. 
I mean a game like Fable or Fallout does the whole &quot;tailoring your experience to your behavior&quot; better than this game, primarily because you aren&#039;t playing a set character. It brings nothing new to the table and the things it does try to do are executed poorly. 
Not all the static is related to Cheryl. What about the guy molesting his daughter or the kid hanging himself in the locker room? The fuck did any of that have to do with Cheryl? 
No I got the ending, I guessed it pretty early on. (at least the fact it was Cheryl in therapy, I began to suspect it from the &quot;color the house&quot; exercise.) Though maybe the lack of blatant explanations in the first Silent Hill games is what makes some reviews say this game isn&#039;t a &quot;head scratcher&quot; or doesn&#039;t make you go &quot;huh?&quot; at the end, and that&#039;s a little sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>@MoldyClay</b>: I realize that, but again the problem is I&#8217;m not playing ME, I&#8217;m playing as Harry. If this was an open-ended game with a blank slate of a main character then it would make a little more sense to have such a system, but as it stands it&#8217;s just a whole bunch of fourth wall breaking and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_reading" rel="nofollow">cold reading</a>.<br />
I mean a game like Fable or Fallout does the whole &#8220;tailoring your experience to your behavior&#8221; better than this game, primarily because you aren&#8217;t playing a set character. It brings nothing new to the table and the things it does try to do are executed poorly.<br />
Not all the static is related to Cheryl. What about the guy molesting his daughter or the kid hanging himself in the locker room? The fuck did any of that have to do with Cheryl?<br />
No I got the ending, I guessed it pretty early on. (at least the fact it was Cheryl in therapy, I began to suspect it from the &#8220;color the house&#8221; exercise.) Though maybe the lack of blatant explanations in the first Silent Hill games is what makes some reviews say this game isn&#8217;t a &#8220;head scratcher&#8221; or doesn&#8217;t make you go &#8220;huh?&#8221; at the end, and that&#8217;s a little sad.</p>
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		<title>By: moldyclay</title>
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		<dc:creator>moldyclay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 17:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The psychology test thing has little to do with the story itself, just so you know. It&#039;s not part of the story other than the fact that Cheryl is in a psychiatrist&#039;s.

The whole point of the psych system is that it is evaluating YOU. Not Harry. Not Cheryl.

The game is basing itself around what you chose and the only thing it effectively determines about the story is the ending. It doesn&#039;t change the fact it&#039;s Cheryl or that you&#039;re dead. It is for the purpose of watching how you played the game and tailoring the experience to you. All it does is effect what things look like, the ending, and very minor character quirks. It&#039;s a reflection on you as a person for what you choose to look at and what you choose to say in the psych tests, and then it evaluates YOU at the end. I thought that was pretty damn clear months ago.

But all of the mementos, echoes, made-up characters and stuff are static things that always occur and they are there for the actual story and explain the things that happened to Cheryl both when she was younger with her family, and as she grew up without her dad.

And be honest, if Dr. K didn&#039;t explain what happened, you&#039;d have raged even harder that the ending didn&#039;t make sense. Even though, the whole thing makes sense if you actually payed attention to most of the stuff going on in the game. 

And Ohma does bring up a great comparison about the story. But the replay value is riding on the psych test changing the experience, not the story itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The psychology test thing has little to do with the story itself, just so you know. It&#8217;s not part of the story other than the fact that Cheryl is in a psychiatrist&#8217;s.</p>
<p>The whole point of the psych system is that it is evaluating YOU. Not Harry. Not Cheryl.</p>
<p>The game is basing itself around what you chose and the only thing it effectively determines about the story is the ending. It doesn&#8217;t change the fact it&#8217;s Cheryl or that you&#8217;re dead. It is for the purpose of watching how you played the game and tailoring the experience to you. All it does is effect what things look like, the ending, and very minor character quirks. It&#8217;s a reflection on you as a person for what you choose to look at and what you choose to say in the psych tests, and then it evaluates YOU at the end. I thought that was pretty damn clear months ago.</p>
<p>But all of the mementos, echoes, made-up characters and stuff are static things that always occur and they are there for the actual story and explain the things that happened to Cheryl both when she was younger with her family, and as she grew up without her dad.</p>
<p>And be honest, if Dr. K didn&#8217;t explain what happened, you&#8217;d have raged even harder that the ending didn&#8217;t make sense. Even though, the whole thing makes sense if you actually payed attention to most of the stuff going on in the game. </p>
<p>And Ohma does bring up a great comparison about the story. But the replay value is riding on the psych test changing the experience, not the story itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Sai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 02:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;@ Ohma&lt;/b&gt; You know that&#039;s a really really good comparison. Signs overall was just.. labored, but The Village could have been decent. I felt ripped off cause it was such a Twilight Zone episode ending. Good if you&#039;re telling a half-hour story, abysmal if you&#039;re doing a two hour film. 

And not only is the village just crazy Amish people but the monster was just a retard in a suit. Great. 

And again take Silent Hill 2, you can play that game again every year or two and still feel the same tension and mystery, and you&#039;ll keep noticing new things each time. Sure it&#039;s not a flawless game by any stretch of the imagination (gameplay and retarded-key-puzzles wise) but it&#039;s eons more compelling than this drivel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>@ Ohma</b> You know that&#8217;s a really really good comparison. Signs overall was just.. labored, but The Village could have been decent. I felt ripped off cause it was such a Twilight Zone episode ending. Good if you&#8217;re telling a half-hour story, abysmal if you&#8217;re doing a two hour film. </p>
<p>And not only is the village just crazy Amish people but the monster was just a retard in a suit. Great. </p>
<p>And again take Silent Hill 2, you can play that game again every year or two and still feel the same tension and mystery, and you&#8217;ll keep noticing new things each time. Sure it&#8217;s not a flawless game by any stretch of the imagination (gameplay and retarded-key-puzzles wise) but it&#8217;s eons more compelling than this drivel.</p>
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